Return-Path: XPUM04@prime-a.central-services.umist.ac.uk Received: from G.SEI.CMU.EDU by ubu.cert.sei.cmu.edu (5.61/2.3) id AA03511; Tue, 19 Jun 90 07:19:39 -0400 Received: from SEI.CMU.EDU by g.sei.cmu.edu (5.61/2.5) id AA28588; Tue, 19 Jun 90 07:19:37 -0400 Received: from nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by sei.cmu.edu (5.61/2.3) id AA01602; Tue, 19 Jun 90 07:19:21 -0400 Received: from sun.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by vax.NSFnet-Relay.AC.UK via Janet with NIFTP id aa05144; 19 Jun 90 9:37 BST From: Anthony Appleyard To: DAVIDF@cs.heriot-watt.ac.uk Date: Tue, 19 Jun 90 09:42:36 BST Message-Id: <$TGWFCWKBBCVQ at UMPA> Subject: Here is Virus-L vol 0 #0926 Virus-L Digest Mon, 26 Sep 88, Volume 0 : Issue #0926 Today's Topics Conference Concerns Conference Continued Virus Conference - Good News! Conference Continued ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Sep 88 00:20:37 EDT From: Loren K Keim -- Lehigh University Subject: Conference Concerns It's been a long and bloody war. Originally, I was told that an organization (ANY ORGANIZATION) at Lehigh could acquire rooms to hold seminars. This fact is true, and in following such procedures, I proceeded to acquire rooms with the okay of two campus organizations. The Lehigh University Computing Center Staff complained about this little conference. I am told by people that specific members of this list complained that such a conference would make Lehigh look bad and the only purpose of the conference is simply to show off my product. I sincerely resent that. I also resent the fact that I applied through the CSEE department after concerns were lodged that the CSEE department might sponsor the conference. Bill Harris has stated that Lehigh is not sponsoring it. That has not yet been decided, I simply have not asked the computing center to sponsor it. I dislike the ideology of the center and have disagreed with it publically on too many occations. At this point in time, we are being asked to postpone the conference for 8 months to a year. We are being asked to postpone it because Lehigh feels that the conference was rushed and would make Lehigh look bad. I disagree because we had a slate of great people coming to discuss the problems. One of the conditions of the conference taking place has also been that I do not participate in the organization several people have told me. In light of this, I have contacted all but two people who sent checks to me and told them not to make any plane reservations. Anyone who has not heard from me, please send me mail. HOWEVER, since an overwhelming voice to continue the conference elsewhere has been heard, we looked for an alternate place to hold one. Since all the hotels have been booked up, I am volunteering one of my offices. Since we won't have room for speeches, and I suspect people will not want to come because of these facts, I don't think we will have any speakers. HOWEVER, since we do seem to have a good number of "experts" coming, we have decided to have some meetings and get togethers concerning the dangers of viruses to Banking systems and secure systems, we would like to review the pro's and con's of Fred Cohen's Complexity Based Security, several people's CRC / encryption / and signature schemes, and I'd like people to look over my own Separation Schematics if they would like. I will post a list of who is coming later this week. We will be getting together Friday night and Saturday of the same weekend. As I hear who still wants to come, this week I will be sending out maps and hotel information (if anyone needs it) to those interested at MY COST. I will be returning those people's checks who sent them. If anyone wants to donate their checks to defer the cost of mailing out maps and hotel info, as well as coffee and donuts, that is fine, but it is completely unnecessary. I would like to greatly thank those people who have helped so much with this project, they have been a great support team. I know we will already have a decent gathering of minds that weekend, and I sincerely hope something comes out of the meetings, whether that be some new security designs, some new ideas, a new way of looking at the problem or anything. Notes from the conference will be distributed to whoever might want them, at cost of postage to sent them. Again, thanks to all those people who have been a help in getting this together. Even we have been pushed off by the Lehigh University Computing Center, I still think we will do fine. Thank you, Comments please forward to LKK0@LEHIGH. Loren K Keim -------------------- Date: Mon, 26 Sep 88 00:28:47 EDT From: Loren K Keim -- Lehigh University Subject: Conference Continued A couple more items I seem to have missed looking at my notes. As for those people who claimed I was setting this up for my own benefit: I don't want anyone to be unnerved by that. We invited 4 other anti-viral software firms to send people, and did not plan on showing our wares. I'd also like to thank Dennis Director of Director Technologies (Disk Defender) for volunteering his services. I have been receiving a constant barrage of questions recently, and I am very sorry if I missed replying to some. Some I had trouble getting to particular arpanet addresses, and some I just didn't have time for, its been very hectic on this end. For those two people I could not get in touch with (you know who you are) that sent me checks for the conference. I was unable to contact each of you because I didn't receive a bitnet address with your checks to my knowledge. Likewise, since Ken has elected to keep this a closed list, we can't get a listing of those people on the list, something I personally dislike. Please contact me as soon as possible. Anyone who received mail and hasn't gotten back to me, I could really use replies from you. Loren Keim -------------------- Date: Mon, 26 Sep 88 09:18:03 EDT From: Loren K Keim -- Lehigh University Subject: Virus Conference - Good News! Well Folks, Looks like some of my comments were a bit premature. As the majority of people writing to me have stated, they want the conference to go on, full strength, as I would. I was very afraid that we could not hold a full conference, particularly having speakers for possibly as few as 20-25 people. (We may have more, but this is our current count). Everyone else seems to think otherwise. The general concensis is that the fewer people that attend, the more dedicated the group, and the easier it may be for people to make their oppinions known and discuss the topics completely and possibly come up with something. Some people suggested (something I hadn't thought of) that we would also be a planning group for future conferences in other parts of the country. Its a good idea. Most of the conferences I've been to have been held for computer hacks and others who know little to nothing about security systems or virii other than what they've read in the trade magazines. In addition, we have located a country club we can rent rooms from, and two schools have offered us some help, so I honestly believr we will have room for speakers. With this short a number of people, I don't believe we'll be able to pay for two of our possible speakers, BUT we have had a number of volunteers. We have had a great deal of help from people and I thank you all very much. Especially I'd like to point out Joseph Sieczkowski, (Did I spell it correctly?), Chris A. Bracy, William A. Bader, and J.D. Abolins for their help and suggestions. There are quite a few others but I can't remember names off the top of my head. We will be sending a full outline of the conference to the list this afternoon. (I have meetings all day and have some changes I would like to make). Those people who have already sent me checks: Tell me whether or not you are still coming. If you are, I will be using those checks to pay for rooms, the book which we have just about completed putting together for the conference, and coffee/donuts. We should still have money left over and it will be refunded OR we can take the group out to dinner. I will be sending out hotel info and maps tommorrow morning to those who are coming. If you haven't sent me a check and you want to attend. Please notify me at LKK0@LEHIGH.Bitnet that you wish to attend the conference (I'd like to get an exact head count as early as possible), and send a check for $50.00 to Computer Virus Conference, c/o Loren K Keim PO Box 2423 Lehigh Valley, Pa. 18001 Again, a full outline to be sent probably about 6:00 or 6:30 tonight. That's Eastern time. Loren K Keim -------------------- Date: Mon, 26 Sep 88 16:37:30 EDT From: SHERK@UMDD Subject: Conference Continued In-Reply-To: Message received on Mon, 26 Sep 88 09:40:04 EDT >since Ken has elected to keep this a closed list, we can't >get a listing of those people on the list, something I personally dislike. >Loren Keim I am glad it is closed! I would be very upset if my name appeared on a junk mailing list. -------------------- *** end of Virus-L issue ***