Return-Path: XPUM04@prime-a.central-services.umist.ac.uk Received: from G.SEI.CMU.EDU by ubu.cert.sei.cmu.edu (5.61/2.3) id AA21410; Thu, 7 Jun 90 14:25:34 -0400 Received: from SEI.CMU.EDU by g.sei.cmu.edu (5.61/2.5) id AA14641; Thu, 7 Jun 90 14:25:33 -0400 Received: from nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by sei.cmu.edu (5.61/2.3) id AA05112; Thu, 7 Jun 90 14:25:28 -0400 Received: from sun.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by vax.NSFnet-Relay.AC.UK via Janet with NIFTP id aa15936; 7 Jun 90 15:55 BST From: Anthony Appleyard To: DAVIDF@cs.heriot-watt.ac.uk Date: Thu, 07 Jun 90 15:31:52 BST Message-Id: <$TGVGDBVHFKTQ at UMPA> Subject: Virus-L vol 0 issue #0707 Virus-L Digest Thu, 7 Jul 88, Volume 0 : Issue #0707 Today's Topics Removable hard disks VAX/CMS and transportable virii ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jul 88 10:32:57 EDT Reply-To: Virus Discussion List Sender: Virus Discussion List From: David.Slonosky@QUEENSU.CA Subject: Removable hard disks I just saw in the July issue of BYTE magazine that they now have removable hard disks, something that has been suggested as being desireable for viral protection. Thus, you could have two formatted hard disks, one for using with suspicious code and one for normal use. Of course, this would not make your system virus proof if the proper precautions weren't taken, but it is another tool in the fighting of virii and such. David Slonosky % Know thyself? Queen's University % If I knew myself, Kingston, Ontario % I'd run away. -------------------- Date: Thu, 7 Jul 88 10:39:04 EDT Reply-To: Virus Discussion List Sender: Virus Discussion List From: David.Slonosky@QUEENSU.CA Subject: VAX/CMS and transportable virii I routinely use YTERM and a two floppy IBM compatible to transfer data to and from the mainframe. I know that it has been suggested that a virus could be written on an AT with the proper code to transfer to a VAX/CMS environment, but would it be possible to design one that would be transparent to DOS and still be transmitted upon file transferring? What about having one tacked on to the end of a program which got activated somehow? I guess what I'm asking are 1) are security measures strong enough to prevent a virus from coming "alive' in this fashion and 2) is this sort of thing possible in the first place? (Actually, these should be reversed, but I'm only working on my second coffee this morning (8*-).) David Slonosky % Know thyself? Queen's University % If I knew myself, Kingston, Ontario % I'd run away. -------------------- *** end of Virus-L issue *** Return-Path: XPUM04@prime-a.central-services.umist.ac.uk Received: from G.SEI.CMU.EDU by ubu.cert.sei.cmu.edu (5.61/2.3) id AA25886; Tue, 12 Jun 90 06:47:29 -0400 Received: from SEI.CMU.EDU by g.sei.cmu.edu (5.61/2.5) id AA12983; Tue, 12 Jun 90 06:47:27 -0400 Received: from nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by sei.cmu.edu (5.61/2.3) id AA04269; Tue, 12 Jun 90 06:47:18 -0400 Received: from sun.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by vax.NSFnet-Relay.AC.UK via Janet with NIFTP id aa09689; 12 Jun 90 11:14 BST From: Anthony Appleyard To: KRVW <@NSFnet-Relay.AC.UK:KRVW@sei.cmu.edu> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 90 11:02:24 BST Message-Id: <$TGVTCZHTCBNH at UMPA> Subject: Virus-L vol 0 issue #0707 Virus-L Digest Thu, 7 Jul 88, Volume 0 : Issue #0707 Today's Topics Removable hard disks VAX/CMS and transportable virii ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jul 88 10:32:57 EDT Reply-To: Virus Discussion List Sender: Virus Discussion List From: David.Slonosky@QUEENSU.CA Subject: Removable hard disks I just saw in the July issue of BYTE magazine that they now have removable hard disks, something that has been suggested as being desireable for viral protection. Thus, you could have two formatted hard disks, one for using with suspicious code and one for normal use. Of course, this would not make your system virus proof if the proper precautions weren't taken, but it is another tool in the fighting of virii and such. David Slonosky % Know thyself? Queen's University % If I knew myself, Kingston, Ontario % I'd run away. -------------------- Date: Thu, 7 Jul 88 10:39:04 EDT Reply-To: Virus Discussion List Sender: Virus Discussion List From: David.Slonosky@QUEENSU.CA Subject: VAX/CMS and transportable virii I routinely use YTERM and a two floppy IBM compatible to transfer data to and from the mainframe. I know that it has been suggested that a virus could be written on an AT with the proper code to transfer to a VAX/CMS environment, but would it be possible to design one that would be transparent to DOS and still be transmitted upon file transferring? What about having one tacked on to the end of a program which got activated somehow? I guess what I'm asking are 1) are security measures strong enough to prevent a virus from coming "alive' in this fashion and 2) is this sort of thing possible in the first place? (Actually, these should be reversed, but I'm only working on my second coffee this morning (8*-).) David Slonosky % Know thyself? Queen's University % If I knew myself, Kingston, Ontario % I'd run away. -------------------- *** end of Virus-L issue ***